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Vote for the symfony tagline [message #4012] Fri, 17 March 2006 12:01 Go to next message
francois  is currently offline francois
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Symfony tagline[ 68 vote(s) ]
1.Conduct the web to its best 5 / 7%
2.Orchestrating the web 26 / 38%
3.Web development harmonized 37 / 54%

The symfony team, after hearing the suggestions of the community, came up with a short list of 3 possible taglines for the framework.

Tell us what you think.

[Updated on: Tue, 30 May 2006 11:33]

Re: Vote for the symfony tagline [message #4433 is a reply to message #4012 ] Wed, 29 March 2006 23:53 Go to previous messageGo to next message
pixelpope  is currently offline pixelpope
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Please don't use anything that refers to an orchestra or music in a too obvious way. That's just too cheap, and completely boring.
I've seen these logos with a clef and other music stuff. Duh. Is this a sound editor software or what?

After all, I really like the one you're using right now, because it gave me a laugh when I first read it, and I took the lazy in a very positive way => less silly stuff to do, let's you more focus on the important things. And that's what Symfony does, right?

[Updated on: Thu, 30 March 2006 12:54]

Re: Vote for the symfony tagline [message #4436 is a reply to message #4012 ] Thu, 30 March 2006 09:28 Go to previous messageGo to next message
ciccio  is currently offline ciccio
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I'm trying symfony in this days.
"professional web tools for lazy folks" is very nice, please leave it.
Re: Vote for the symfony tagline [message #4657 is a reply to message #4436 ] Wed, 05 April 2006 08:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
brujahRg  is currently offline brujahRg
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"professional web tools for lazy folks" was always fine with me. I know there has been some negative feedbacks about it but considering the current candidate taglines, my vote is for the current tagline to remain the same (maybe until a better alternative has been found)
Re: Vote for the symfony tagline [message #4882 is a reply to message #4657 ] Wed, 12 April 2006 06:58 Go to previous messageGo to next message
jsghagan  is currently offline jsghagan
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Just my two cents...

I like the current tagline: "professional web tools for lazy folks"

And none of the options come even close.

Re: Vote for the symfony tagline [message #4986 is a reply to message #4012 ] Fri, 14 April 2006 03:17 Go to previous messageGo to next message
fastly  is currently offline fastly
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This is my first post to this forum. I have been following this project very closely and started using Mojavi framework about three years ago (one of the core technologies upon which symfony is based).

To someone viewing the home page for the first time, the tagline should give them a clear idea of what this project is about.

Arguably there are two taglines at the moment:
1) [symphony is] an open-source PHP5 web framework
2) professional web tools for lazy folks

Why not combine and shorten the above:

* SYMFONY PROJECT *
* open-source php framework for professional development *

Reasons:
- people aleady know that php is used to develop web apps 99% of the time, however symfony may be used to write more than just web apps. (e.g. web services, maybe even php-gtk?).

- i don't think the php version number is important in the tagline - no doubt symfony will also be compatible with php6... developers will soon find out the php version requirements as they dig deeper. maybe this is something that should be made clear in the intro paragraph instead?

- i believe a tagline should tell the reader exactly what the product/service is in a nutshell and confusing marketing puns should be avoided

- according to thesaurus.com, "lazy" == apathetic, bum, careless, comatose, dallying, dilatory, drowsy, dull, flagging, heavy-footed, idle, inattentive, indifferent, indolent, inert, lackadaisical, laggard, lagging, languid, languorous, lethargic, lifeless, loafing, neglectful, passive, procrastinating, remiss, sack artist, shiftless, slack, sleepy, slothful, slow, slow-moving, snoozy, somnolent, supine, tardy, tired, torpid, trifling, unconcerned, unenergetic, unindustrious, unpersevering, unready, wear. all of these words are the opposite of what symfony has become and what a decision-maker looking to buy-in to a framework needs to see...

- the word "professional" is very important, however not coupled with the word "developers". The reason being, although symfony may be used to develop professional web applications, it's not designed to be exclusively used by professional developers. hopefully non-professional php enthusiasts will also find the framework useful (i.e. for their blog or free software project)... referring to "professional developers" makes the framework sound elitist and inaccessible, however "professional development" talks more about what to expect from developers using symfony.

just my 2 (euro) cents, and hopefully some food for thought!

thank you all.
Razz

[Updated on: Fri, 14 April 2006 03:28]

Re: Vote for the symfony tagline [message #6117 is a reply to message #4986 ] Fri, 12 May 2006 15:51 Go to previous messageGo to next message
Sylvio  is currently offline Sylvio
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My vote will be "don't change it", it's original, funny.


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Re: Vote for the symfony tagline [message #6139 is a reply to message #4012 ] Sat, 13 May 2006 04:48 Go to previous messageGo to next message
kryptyk  is currently offline kryptyk
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yeah, i really dig the 'lazy' take. my wife thought it was quite appropriate, in an 'honesty in advertisting' sorta way.

peace and respect
robin
Re: Vote for the symfony tagline [message #6196 is a reply to message #4436 ] Mon, 15 May 2006 15:43 Go to previous messageGo to next message
shaack  is currently offline shaack
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ciccio wrote on Thu, 30 March 2006 09:28

I'm trying symfony in this days.
"professional web tools for lazy folks" is very nice, please leave it.


Yes, this "lazy" slogan was the first thing, I saw on the page and it impressed me to give symfony a try. Now - I am really impressed after trying it. Please, dont try to make futile business-maketing-slogans.

Greetings, shaack

BTW: "Our mission is to completely revolutionize resource-leveling methods of empowerment as well as to globally promote enterprise-wide catalysts for change to exceed customer expectations."


In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is.
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Re: Vote for the symfony tagline [message #6258 is a reply to message #6196 ] Tue, 16 May 2006 14:13 Go to previous messageGo to next message
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None of the above - they just don't flow. The existing one is much better; stick with that, or present more choices. In any case, the tagline shouldn't be that critical anyway.

J


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Re: Vote for the symfony tagline [message #6265 is a reply to message #4012 ] Tue, 16 May 2006 17:39 Go to previous messageGo to next message
dwhittle  is currently offline dwhittle
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I like the current tagline better than any of the proposed... Plus while we are an open source project we should embrace the business side of things, while not selling out to corporate slang.
Re: Vote for the symfony tagline [message #6279 is a reply to message #4012 ] Tue, 16 May 2006 23:22 Go to previous message
igustafson  is currently offline igustafson
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"Web development harmonized" has a pleasent ring but I agree that it's not as good as the original "lazy folks" slogan.
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